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	<title>Comments on: Hydroxycut Banned-It&#8217;s About Time</title>
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		<title>By: sickofsickofit</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/05/03/hydroxycut-bannedits-time#comment-6339</link>
		<dc:creator>sickofsickofit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem isn&#039;t the educated consumer, it is the ignorant consumer.  I&#039;m sure some people could handle heroin being legal, it doesn&#039;t mean that legalizing it would be a good idea.  The benefits that ephedra provides could be achieved through other supplements with less potential for risk.

I would type more, but I realized I&#039;m responding to alarmist idiots that spew buzzwords like saliva.  Communists?  Really?

Dasvidania, comrades</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem isn&#8217;t the educated consumer, it is the ignorant consumer.  I&#8217;m sure some people could handle heroin being legal, it doesn&#8217;t mean that legalizing it would be a good idea.  The benefits that ephedra provides could be achieved through other supplements with less potential for risk.</p>
<p>I would type more, but I realized I&#8217;m responding to alarmist idiots that spew buzzwords like saliva.  Communists?  Really?</p>
<p>Dasvidania, comrades</p>
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		<title>By: sickofit</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/05/03/hydroxycut-bannedits-time#comment-4526</link>
		<dc:creator>sickofit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about time people showed up on these &quot; doctors&#039; &quot; blogs and set them straight. Brian Dean and Jon Model very rightfully got shot down here. They are both full of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about time people showed up on these &#8221; doctors&#8217; &#8221; blogs and set them straight. Brian Dean and Jon Model very rightfully got shot down here. They are both full of it.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/05/03/hydroxycut-bannedits-time#comment-1050</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is clear &quot;jon model&quot; that you do not have one clear point. I did in fact make some very clear and potent points. The bottom line is without getting complex and cutting to the chase... Ephedra works for weight loss.... it is a fact. Why did they ban ephedra? Health risks are the excuse. The real reason is the pharmaceuticals found it threatening. Ephedra had health risks, very minor health risks. Hydroxycut was possibly made more dangerous today because of greedy regulation by the pharmaceuticals by the ban of ephedra. The bottom line is we should with your model just regulate ourselves into complete communism. I also cannot verify that tomatoes are so highly regulated but I would suggest that from what i have read regarding vegetables is that the use of pesticides and herbicides when fruits and vegetables and imported can contain serious know carcinogens. This is something that everyone eats every day. This is in stark comparison to the small amount of people who use herbs like hydroxy. This actually brings another point. How food kills so many people each year. We had better ban meat! kills a lot of kids and adults every year. The argument never ends. However when you look at the actual numbers the herbal supplement industry comes out as one of the safest industries there is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is clear &#8220;jon model&#8221; that you do not have one clear point. I did in fact make some very clear and potent points. The bottom line is without getting complex and cutting to the chase&#8230; Ephedra works for weight loss&#8230;. it is a fact. Why did they ban ephedra? Health risks are the excuse. The real reason is the pharmaceuticals found it threatening. Ephedra had health risks, very minor health risks. Hydroxycut was possibly made more dangerous today because of greedy regulation by the pharmaceuticals by the ban of ephedra. The bottom line is we should with your model just regulate ourselves into complete communism. I also cannot verify that tomatoes are so highly regulated but I would suggest that from what i have read regarding vegetables is that the use of pesticides and herbicides when fruits and vegetables and imported can contain serious know carcinogens. This is something that everyone eats every day. This is in stark comparison to the small amount of people who use herbs like hydroxy. This actually brings another point. How food kills so many people each year. We had better ban meat! kills a lot of kids and adults every year. The argument never ends. However when you look at the actual numbers the herbal supplement industry comes out as one of the safest industries there is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Model</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/05/03/hydroxycut-bannedits-time#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Model</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s relatively clear Brian, that you are engaged in a battle of wit with those that are lacking any real &quot;armamentarium&quot;.  Unfortunately with people like &quot;Tom&quot; and &quot;John&quot;, you have your classic anti-pharma/government conspiracist propaganda.  In fact, all you have to do is just harken back to &quot;john&#039;s&quot; statement to see frank hypocrisy.  He mentions that it hasn&#039;t been proven that hydroxycut has cause frank liver toxicity then refers to the dangers of mercury amalgams, well where the evidenced based argument proving their toxicity.  While most pharmaceuticals have the potential for greater adverse effects than their comparative nutraceuticals, they also have far stronger potential for disease management/cure; that&#039;s the clear double edge sword nature of pharmaceuticals.  It&#039;s relatively clear that nutraceuticals for the most part(besides a small handful like fish oil, etc) rely on the placebo effect at best, in addition to the ignorance, naivety, and the need for instantaneous gratification of humankind.  

It&#039;s sad to see people fight so strongly for the lack of regulation in the supplement market; ironic that people the food that comes to people&#039;s table(which for the most part has relatively limited processing in comparison to supplement/nutraceuticals) is more regulated than the nutraceutical market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s relatively clear Brian, that you are engaged in a battle of wit with those that are lacking any real &#8220;armamentarium&#8221;.  Unfortunately with people like &#8220;Tom&#8221; and &#8220;John&#8221;, you have your classic anti-pharma/government conspiracist propaganda.  In fact, all you have to do is just harken back to &#8220;john&#8217;s&#8221; statement to see frank hypocrisy.  He mentions that it hasn&#8217;t been proven that hydroxycut has cause frank liver toxicity then refers to the dangers of mercury amalgams, well where the evidenced based argument proving their toxicity.  While most pharmaceuticals have the potential for greater adverse effects than their comparative nutraceuticals, they also have far stronger potential for disease management/cure; that&#8217;s the clear double edge sword nature of pharmaceuticals.  It&#8217;s relatively clear that nutraceuticals for the most part(besides a small handful like fish oil, etc) rely on the placebo effect at best, in addition to the ignorance, naivety, and the need for instantaneous gratification of humankind.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad to see people fight so strongly for the lack of regulation in the supplement market; ironic that people the food that comes to people&#8217;s table(which for the most part has relatively limited processing in comparison to supplement/nutraceuticals) is more regulated than the nutraceutical market.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/05/03/hydroxycut-bannedits-time#comment-909</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 15:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,

Thanks for your response, you make some great points. 

I think I need to clarify my point a bit.

My point is not that Hydroxycut  (or other supplements) are inherently more dangerous than pharmaceutical drugs-they clearly aren&#039;t and I never claimed them to be so.

My point is that they go completely unregulated. There is another safe, natural, and extremely healthy thing we put into our bodies everyday that is regulated by the government. In fact, if the government stopped regulating this, there would be wild protests.

That my friend is food. Food is strictly regulated by the government for safety. If they regulate a tomato they should be regulating Hydroxycut. 

My other point that the legislation behind the decision to not regulate was extremely unethical.

I agree that there are greater public health threats than the lack of regulation of the supplement industry. But that doesn&#039;t mean it isn&#039;t an important issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>Thanks for your response, you make some great points. </p>
<p>I think I need to clarify my point a bit.</p>
<p>My point is not that Hydroxycut  (or other supplements) are inherently more dangerous than pharmaceutical drugs-they clearly aren&#8217;t and I never claimed them to be so.</p>
<p>My point is that they go completely unregulated. There is another safe, natural, and extremely healthy thing we put into our bodies everyday that is regulated by the government. In fact, if the government stopped regulating this, there would be wild protests.</p>
<p>That my friend is food. Food is strictly regulated by the government for safety. If they regulate a tomato they should be regulating Hydroxycut. </p>
<p>My other point that the legislation behind the decision to not regulate was extremely unethical.</p>
<p>I agree that there are greater public health threats than the lack of regulation of the supplement industry. But that doesn&#8217;t mean it isn&#8217;t an important issue.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/05/03/hydroxycut-bannedits-time#comment-893</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 18:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Brian the facts are closer to Tom&#039;s facts. Pharmaceutical drugs are by statistics the fourth leading cause of death in north america. They have not even proven that it is hydroxycut that caused the liver damage. Even if it is the case that hydroxycut caused the damage when you look at the statistics of how many doses are sold and how many adverse reactions occured it is not even close to the same percentages caused by pharmaceuticals at large. Yes Hydroxycut may not be perfectly safe but it is far from the demon that you are making it out to be. Also while it may be true that some supplements cause problems should we make it extremely difficult to get supplements by changing the laws so as to ruin the supplement industry? The benefits of the easier rules outweigh the risk. I live in Canada, we have the stricter regulations and they are not good for the consumer or the manufacturer. The truth is the government are hypocrites due to about 1000 reasons. I would say if you want to get on a &quot;real&quot; concern bandwagon....how about the fact that the government still allows one of the most toxic elements to be placed in your teeth next to your brain....MERCURY AMALGALMS.  That is a real concern. Not a couple people who probably had liver problems to begin with who probably abused hydroxycut. It is just another witch hunt just like ephedra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Brian the facts are closer to Tom&#8217;s facts. Pharmaceutical drugs are by statistics the fourth leading cause of death in north america. They have not even proven that it is hydroxycut that caused the liver damage. Even if it is the case that hydroxycut caused the damage when you look at the statistics of how many doses are sold and how many adverse reactions occured it is not even close to the same percentages caused by pharmaceuticals at large. Yes Hydroxycut may not be perfectly safe but it is far from the demon that you are making it out to be. Also while it may be true that some supplements cause problems should we make it extremely difficult to get supplements by changing the laws so as to ruin the supplement industry? The benefits of the easier rules outweigh the risk. I live in Canada, we have the stricter regulations and they are not good for the consumer or the manufacturer. The truth is the government are hypocrites due to about 1000 reasons. I would say if you want to get on a &#8220;real&#8221; concern bandwagon&#8230;.how about the fact that the government still allows one of the most toxic elements to be placed in your teeth next to your brain&#8230;.MERCURY AMALGALMS.  That is a real concern. Not a couple people who probably had liver problems to begin with who probably abused hydroxycut. It is just another witch hunt just like ephedra.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/05/03/hydroxycut-bannedits-time#comment-812</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 21:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, most supplements are safer than most pharmaceuticals. 

There are many reasons for this:

1. The population that takes prescription drugs are generally already sick, older, and live a less healthy lifestyle than those that take supplements.

2. Many supplements are benign and have little to no impact on the human body.

3. More people in general take prescription drugs than supplements. 

I said at the end of my article that supplements are generally safe-which they are. My point was that we should have some oversight over the companies that produce, manufacture, and market potentially dangerous compounds. 

To say that supplements are 1000x safer is baseless exaggeration.
 
I hope you can see that I do have &quot;my facts straight&quot;. Do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, most supplements are safer than most pharmaceuticals. </p>
<p>There are many reasons for this:</p>
<p>1. The population that takes prescription drugs are generally already sick, older, and live a less healthy lifestyle than those that take supplements.</p>
<p>2. Many supplements are benign and have little to no impact on the human body.</p>
<p>3. More people in general take prescription drugs than supplements. </p>
<p>I said at the end of my article that supplements are generally safe-which they are. My point was that we should have some oversight over the companies that produce, manufacture, and market potentially dangerous compounds. </p>
<p>To say that supplements are 1000x safer is baseless exaggeration.</p>
<p>I hope you can see that I do have &#8220;my facts straight&#8221;. Do you?</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/05/03/hydroxycut-bannedits-time#comment-810</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 03:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supplements are still 1000x safer than most pharmaceuticals.  6,000 people die a year from aspirin alone!   Facts are that pharmaceuticals are the real danger.  Ephedra was wrongfully banned in 2004, and it is back on the market , no longer banned because it is safe unlike all the pills.   Heath Ledger died of what again?  Not supplements!  
Get your facts straight and wake up to the reality that Medical Doctors are pill pushers for big pharma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supplements are still 1000x safer than most pharmaceuticals.  6,000 people die a year from aspirin alone!   Facts are that pharmaceuticals are the real danger.  Ephedra was wrongfully banned in 2004, and it is back on the market , no longer banned because it is safe unlike all the pills.   Heath Ledger died of what again?  Not supplements!<br />
Get your facts straight and wake up to the reality that Medical Doctors are pill pushers for big pharma.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexis</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/05/03/hydroxycut-bannedits-time#comment-786</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 21:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian,

Thanks for the support and reading my blog.  You have some great posts on here.  Best of luck!

Lexx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,</p>
<p>Thanks for the support and reading my blog.  You have some great posts on here.  Best of luck!</p>
<p>Lexx</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/05/03/hydroxycut-bannedits-time#comment-785</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 20:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I would recommend getting yourself checked out. It certainly won&#039;t hurt. Ask your doctor to order a blood lab test called an LFT (liver function test) panel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I would recommend getting yourself checked out. It certainly won&#8217;t hurt. Ask your doctor to order a blood lab test called an LFT (liver function test) panel.</p>
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