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		<title>By: Gary Pepper M.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/02/12/attacks-armour-thyroid#comment-13285</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Pepper M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Catherine

The approved method for taking Armour Thyroid and other dessicated thyroid hormone pills is to swallow them along with a glass of water. I suppose the idea behind chewing the medicine originates with the thought that you need to release the hormone from the binder. Extensive studies by the manufacturer show that swallowing the tablet whole results in good hormone absorption. That has been my observation with hundreds of patients. Some people prefer to split the dose in two because the T3 portion can be expected to be metabolized (used up) within a matter of a few hours after taking the medication. Whether it is worth the inconvenience of having to take a medicine two times daily vs. only once is an individual matter.

Does that answer the question?

Thanks for your post.
Dr. P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Catherine</p>
<p>The approved method for taking Armour Thyroid and other dessicated thyroid hormone pills is to swallow them along with a glass of water. I suppose the idea behind chewing the medicine originates with the thought that you need to release the hormone from the binder. Extensive studies by the manufacturer show that swallowing the tablet whole results in good hormone absorption. That has been my observation with hundreds of patients. Some people prefer to split the dose in two because the T3 portion can be expected to be metabolized (used up) within a matter of a few hours after taking the medication. Whether it is worth the inconvenience of having to take a medicine two times daily vs. only once is an individual matter.</p>
<p>Does that answer the question?</p>
<p>Thanks for your post.<br />
Dr. P</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/02/12/attacks-armour-thyroid#comment-13283</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Pepper,

Do you recommend that your patients take NTH once daily or multi-dose? My doctor (who&#039;s on Armour herself) said that NTH can safely be taken once a day in the morning as it is more stable than synthetic combo drugs,  but it seeems that most people multi-dose. Of course it&#039;s easier to take once a day, especially if you swallow your pills like I do and then have to wait for at least half an hour before eating. But many claim that that puts too much stress on the adrenals and the heart, especially if you take large doses (I take 4 grains daily during the cold season).

I would really like to know what you recommend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Pepper,</p>
<p>Do you recommend that your patients take NTH once daily or multi-dose? My doctor (who&#8217;s on Armour herself) said that NTH can safely be taken once a day in the morning as it is more stable than synthetic combo drugs,  but it seeems that most people multi-dose. Of course it&#8217;s easier to take once a day, especially if you swallow your pills like I do and then have to wait for at least half an hour before eating. But many claim that that puts too much stress on the adrenals and the heart, especially if you take large doses (I take 4 grains daily during the cold season).</p>
<p>I would really like to know what you recommend?</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/02/12/attacks-armour-thyroid#comment-13279</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question about this. In several forums, I have seen the advice that Armour needs to be chewed up before being swallowed, otherwise the thyroid hormone in the pills won&#039;t be released properly. What is your opinion? Do you recommend that your patients swallow the pills or chew them up first? I have read that swallowing them or taking them sublingually render them useless, and make the thyroid hormone pass through your intestins undigested, so chewing them up before swallowing them is the only way to make it work...I&#039;d appreciate your opinion on this because there is GREAT CONFUSION??? This is said to apply to all NTH meds with an increased cellulose content (Armour, Westhroid, Nature-Throid).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question about this. In several forums, I have seen the advice that Armour needs to be chewed up before being swallowed, otherwise the thyroid hormone in the pills won&#8217;t be released properly. What is your opinion? Do you recommend that your patients swallow the pills or chew them up first? I have read that swallowing them or taking them sublingually render them useless, and make the thyroid hormone pass through your intestins undigested, so chewing them up before swallowing them is the only way to make it work&#8230;I&#8217;d appreciate your opinion on this because there is GREAT CONFUSION??? This is said to apply to all NTH meds with an increased cellulose content (Armour, Westhroid, Nature-Throid).</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Pepper M.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/02/12/attacks-armour-thyroid#comment-13269</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Pepper M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna
Your question is very important but this type of information is not public. Adding binders like cellulose is a common approach to create a &quot;timed release&quot; effect of the hormone medication. Compounding pharmacies use this strategy to make &quot;time released T3&quot; out of pure T3. It isn&#039;t a very precise method but it does a reasonable job of extending the time it takes for the hormone to be absorbed into the circulation. Perhaps that was in some way behind the Forest decision to reformulate. As you see from my previous post and posts from members like Cathy (posted Feb 7) I haven&#039;t noticed a dramatic change in the effect of Armour since the reformulation but that doesn&#039;t exclude the possibility that certain individuals can tell the difference.

Dr. P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna<br />
Your question is very important but this type of information is not public. Adding binders like cellulose is a common approach to create a &#8220;timed release&#8221; effect of the hormone medication. Compounding pharmacies use this strategy to make &#8220;time released T3&#8243; out of pure T3. It isn&#8217;t a very precise method but it does a reasonable job of extending the time it takes for the hormone to be absorbed into the circulation. Perhaps that was in some way behind the Forest decision to reformulate. As you see from my previous post and posts from members like Cathy (posted Feb 7) I haven&#8217;t noticed a dramatic change in the effect of Armour since the reformulation but that doesn&#8217;t exclude the possibility that certain individuals can tell the difference.</p>
<p>Dr. P.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/02/12/attacks-armour-thyroid#comment-13266</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dr Pepper,

Do you know WHY Armour was reformulated in 2009? I have read so many strange explanations - that the FDA forced Forest and RLC Labs to reformulate their products so that people would stop using them and switch to Synthroid, that the manufacturer of Synthroid was behind the reformulation for the same reason, that this is only the first step to banning NTH altogether...apparently, the amount of cellulose was increased and the amount of lactose/dextrose was decreased. Can you find a rational explanation for that, as it is often said that cellulose binds thyroid hormone, hence making the drugs less effective?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr Pepper,</p>
<p>Do you know WHY Armour was reformulated in 2009? I have read so many strange explanations &#8211; that the FDA forced Forest and RLC Labs to reformulate their products so that people would stop using them and switch to Synthroid, that the manufacturer of Synthroid was behind the reformulation for the same reason, that this is only the first step to banning NTH altogether&#8230;apparently, the amount of cellulose was increased and the amount of lactose/dextrose was decreased. Can you find a rational explanation for that, as it is often said that cellulose binds thyroid hormone, hence making the drugs less effective?</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/02/12/attacks-armour-thyroid#comment-13265</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had the opportunity to try both Erfa and Armour in the past two months and Erfa was not at all optimal for me. I followed the advice given in various forums, that is, to take the pills sublingually and multi-dose. This made me both hyper and hypo at the same time. I could have enormous amounts of energy one minute and then suddenly crash. I could feel cold one minute and start sweating the next. With Armour, it&#039;s completely different. I follow my doctor&#039;s instructions and chew the pills up before I swallow them with water. This works wonders for me! I have even levels of energy throughout the day, I feel refreshed when I wake up in the morning, I feel naturally tired at night, I have no problems falling asleep and I don&#039;t even feel like I&#039;m on medication (which I did on Erfa). So I guess it&#039;s very individual. For me, Armour is the best choice and I&#039;m going to stick with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had the opportunity to try both Erfa and Armour in the past two months and Erfa was not at all optimal for me. I followed the advice given in various forums, that is, to take the pills sublingually and multi-dose. This made me both hyper and hypo at the same time. I could have enormous amounts of energy one minute and then suddenly crash. I could feel cold one minute and start sweating the next. With Armour, it&#8217;s completely different. I follow my doctor&#8217;s instructions and chew the pills up before I swallow them with water. This works wonders for me! I have even levels of energy throughout the day, I feel refreshed when I wake up in the morning, I feel naturally tired at night, I have no problems falling asleep and I don&#8217;t even feel like I&#8217;m on medication (which I did on Erfa). So I guess it&#8217;s very individual. For me, Armour is the best choice and I&#8217;m going to stick with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Pepper M.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/02/12/attacks-armour-thyroid#comment-13247</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Pepper M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a drug is reformulated the FDA is involved which is included in the public record. When the reformulated drug is released to the medical community that information must be updated to all prescribing medical professionals. I have not received any alerts either public or professional that confirm another reformulation of Armour. Hope that info helps.

Dr. P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a drug is reformulated the FDA is involved which is included in the public record. When the reformulated drug is released to the medical community that information must be updated to all prescribing medical professionals. I have not received any alerts either public or professional that confirm another reformulation of Armour. Hope that info helps.</p>
<p>Dr. P.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Pepper M.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/02/12/attacks-armour-thyroid#comment-13246</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Pepper M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Catherine

When it comes to people&#039;s preferences for medication I never say &quot;never&quot;. It is amazing how one person is totally happy with a certain medication and another person absolutely hates the way the same medication makes them feel. This applies frequently to thyroid medications. Recent research has shown how genetic differences can cause some hypothyroid people to require more T3 replacement than &quot;normal&quot; to achieve a good thyroid balance. When it comes to dessicated or &quot;natural&quot; thyroid hormone replacement some people claim the new formulation of Armour reacts differently than other formulations and brands. This has not been the experience of my patient&#039;s. For the hundreds of people who I have treated with Armour I can think of only one or two who prefer one of the other formulations of dessicated thyroid. I have a whole chapter in my book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metabolism.com/shop/metabolism-book&quot; title=&quot;The Metabolism.com book&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Metabolism.com&lt;/a&gt; which addresses the Armour issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Catherine</p>
<p>When it comes to people&#8217;s preferences for medication I never say &#8220;never&#8221;. It is amazing how one person is totally happy with a certain medication and another person absolutely hates the way the same medication makes them feel. This applies frequently to thyroid medications. Recent research has shown how genetic differences can cause some hypothyroid people to require more T3 replacement than &#8220;normal&#8221; to achieve a good thyroid balance. When it comes to dessicated or &#8220;natural&#8221; thyroid hormone replacement some people claim the new formulation of Armour reacts differently than other formulations and brands. This has not been the experience of my patient&#8217;s. For the hundreds of people who I have treated with Armour I can think of only one or two who prefer one of the other formulations of dessicated thyroid. I have a whole chapter in my book <a href="http://www.metabolism.com/shop/metabolism-book" title="The Metabolism.com book" rel="nofollow">Metabolism.com</a> which addresses the Armour issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine S</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/02/12/attacks-armour-thyroid#comment-13236</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dr. Pepper,

I would be interested to know if you find the reformulated Armour to be as effective as the old one? Do you still prescribe Armour instead of Nature-Throid, Erfa etc? As far as I&#039;ve understood the posts I&#039;ve read, thyroid advocates such as Mary Shomon and Janie Bowthorpe have switced to other brands of desiccated thyroid, after years on Armour. But would you say that Armour is still as effective (that&#039;s how I interpret your answer to Hannah?) Is it, like some claim, only a question of how you take that; that is, chewing it up vs taking it sublingually? But what about the increased amount of cellulose in Armour; could that not cause malabsorption and hence reduce the amount of thyroid hormone available to the body?

I would appreciate a reply from you as I am currently hesitating between Armour and Erfa. My doctor is herself on Armour and has been for years, and she claims she never noticed any difference whatsoever after the reformulation. Armour is also more easily available than Erfa. But I&#039;ve read hundreds of posts about how the new Armour destroyed people&#039;s lives, made their hypo symptoms return with a vengeance, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr. Pepper,</p>
<p>I would be interested to know if you find the reformulated Armour to be as effective as the old one? Do you still prescribe Armour instead of Nature-Throid, Erfa etc? As far as I&#8217;ve understood the posts I&#8217;ve read, thyroid advocates such as Mary Shomon and Janie Bowthorpe have switced to other brands of desiccated thyroid, after years on Armour. But would you say that Armour is still as effective (that&#8217;s how I interpret your answer to Hannah?) Is it, like some claim, only a question of how you take that; that is, chewing it up vs taking it sublingually? But what about the increased amount of cellulose in Armour; could that not cause malabsorption and hence reduce the amount of thyroid hormone available to the body?</p>
<p>I would appreciate a reply from you as I am currently hesitating between Armour and Erfa. My doctor is herself on Armour and has been for years, and she claims she never noticed any difference whatsoever after the reformulation. Armour is also more easily available than Erfa. But I&#8217;ve read hundreds of posts about how the new Armour destroyed people&#8217;s lives, made their hypo symptoms return with a vengeance, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.metabolism.com/2009/02/12/attacks-armour-thyroid#comment-13234</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know if Armour was reformulated again in 2011? I have found some posts claiming this was the case...I was prescribed Armour in late 2011 and I can verify that the pills do not turn into a chalky paste when I put them under my tongue (as described by many other patients). However, it does not have a strong, characteristic odor either although it says so on the bottle. I managed to get the pharmacist to give me one bottle of Erfa as well, just to be able to compare the two, and I find Erfa to be more effective and definitely easier to take sublingually.

But it would be interesting to know if there is some truth to the rumors that Armour was reformulated a second time in 2011?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if Armour was reformulated again in 2011? I have found some posts claiming this was the case&#8230;I was prescribed Armour in late 2011 and I can verify that the pills do not turn into a chalky paste when I put them under my tongue (as described by many other patients). However, it does not have a strong, characteristic odor either although it says so on the bottle. I managed to get the pharmacist to give me one bottle of Erfa as well, just to be able to compare the two, and I find Erfa to be more effective and definitely easier to take sublingually.</p>
<p>But it would be interesting to know if there is some truth to the rumors that Armour was reformulated a second time in 2011?</p>
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